Showing posts with label 2008 General Plan Amendments. Show all posts
Showing posts with label 2008 General Plan Amendments. Show all posts

Monday, November 10, 2014

Oro Valley Staff To Examine Neighborhood Meeting Procedures


The Oro Valley Town Council directed town staff to review current neighborhood meeting standard operating procedures ("SOP") in relation to major general plan amendments. The objective is to insure that these meetings reflect best practices and, perhaps, closer conformance to the requirements of the 2015 General Plan.

Council Member Hornat does not see the neighborhood meeting format of today as being broken.  "I think we've refined this process very well." Nonetheless, he believes that it is "Its time to take a look at [the SOP] and refresh it."

Council Member's Garner and Zinkin asked that the SOP be reviewed because some of the current neighborhood meeting procedures are not inline with the requirements of the 2005 General Plan (2005 General Plan, page 15) regarding major general plan amendments.

According to the plan, there is supposed to be a public hearing after the amendment has been reviewed by the Planning and Zoning Commission and before it is heard by council.  This public hearing does not happen.

Council Member Zinkin stated that he had "...received emails about the open house format that the town is using at neighborhood meetings." This is a format in which the applicant and town staff break into different groups to discuss the application instead of having the applicant stand in front of the attendees to discuss the request and to answer questions.

The trouble with that is that it is not within our existing code" because it does not facilitate open dialogue as required by code.

Council Member Waters observed that the current the open house meeting format  has no nefarious intent. In, fact, he asserted that it has just the opposite effect.  Council Member Snider agreed.

Council Member Burns agreed that a review of the SOP was in order.

Mayor Hiremath recommended that nothing be done at the moment since the town is drafting a new general plan.  "We want the neighbors educated," he noted. He said, however, that he was unwilling to change the code to conform with a general plan since any change would likely be effective for a few short years.  He felt that investigating this at this time is not a good use of town staff time.

The council did not set a timetable for the review.
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Monday, August 19, 2013

A Tempest Is Brewing Over The Kai Property

If you live near or around the Kai property then you are in the heart of a brewing tempest.  If you live close to in, in areas such as Catalina Shadows, Catalina Shadow Estates and Palisades Point, then you are in for a treat.  This conclusion reached based on our interviews of those who attended a neighborhood meeting last week.  Attendees heard and provided comment on a "zoning request" for the Kai Property, which sits as prime real estate off of First Avenue.

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Developer WLB Management wants to build 195 homes on 7,000 sq. ft. lots on the portion of the property that is north of Palisades and East of First Avenue.  The portion south of Palisades would remain the same zoning which is low density residential.

We think that this change requires a change in the property's 2005 General Plan designated  "land use;" and a zoning change from low density residential to medium density residential.

However, town staff and the developer don't agree.  They think that this is not a land use change.  It is nothing more than a zoning change, requiring a simple majority approval by council.  We've commented on this. ( (Kai Property: Here We Go Again).

We think that a "legal" determination needs to be made on the meaning of the key words in the 2005 general plan in relation to the Kai property. The word is "overall".   We believe that, in 2005, one unit per acre was agreed to be the residential density of the entire residential portion of the property. Town staff is interpreting the term to mean an average density over the entire property.

Residents attending last week's neighborhood had other concerns:
  • Habitat Destruction of Eagles Nests:  Apparently there are an number of eagles' nests on the property that would be disturbed by any construction.
  • Road way exit for the property would only be onto Palisades, creating significant additional traffic. This will also create, they allege, safety hazard for walkers on Palisades and a challenge for school bus stops.
  • 195 new homes will add children to, what are likely to be, overcrowded schools in Oro Valley given all the other construction taking place.
We are hopeful that town staff will hold another neighborhood meeting.  If not, the next time the public will have an opportunity to opine on this, other than here, will be at the first of two required Planning and Zoning Commission hearings.
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Wednesday, December 5, 2012

Oro Valley Town Council Continues Decision On Desert Springs Amendment

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Tonight, the Oro Valley Town Council voted 7-0 to continue the Desert Springs General Plan Amendment.  This means that this property, located across from the Oro Valley Marketplace, adjacent to Catalina State Park will remain as low density residential/ commercial for the moment.  It also means that those who oppose this change must remain vigilant, for this amendment will come up again in some form, unless the developer decides they can get a better deal by staying in Pima County.

It was obvious, based on the tenor of the discussions, that the amendment would not have been approved by a super majority of council, as required. So, the "pro business four"(Mayor Hiremath and Council Member's Waters, Hornat and Snider) pulled if off the table.  This, they could do by a majority vote.  This, they had to do, because the measure would not have been approved.

Significant points that arose during the discussion:
  • To Mayor Hiremath, the decision is a matter of control.  Does Oro Valley want to have Pima County control what happens to this property or would Oro Valley rather have control over what happens?  Thus, a rejection of this amendment would leave the future development of this parcel in the hand of the County.
  • The requested amendment is to change the land use designation; not to annex the property. Annexation would occur if the applicant requested annexation by the town and the town agreed. In other words, the applicant could get agreement for a land use change and then pit Pima County and Oro Valley against each other in a bidding war for zoning most favorable to the use granted.
  • Council Member Burns questioned where the facts were to support the assertions that, for example, medium density housing is needed now, whereas it was not needed when the plan was approved in 2005.  Also, he asked, has the town vision of being a "residential, resort" community changed such that it should foster significant density residential next to the Catalina State Park?  If so, where is the evidence to support this assertion?
  • Council Member Garner questioned why, in one request, WLB, the developer of two separate parcels being requested for amendment, said there was no demand for residential; yet, on Desert Springs, located two miles east, they claim that there is a demand for residential.
  • Council Member Zinkin noted that the property, once approved for a medium density land use, would likely be requested to be zoned for this use.  This increase density would result in "track homes." 
Council chambers was packed to overflowing, with concerned County and Oro Valley residents. Many spoke during the public hearing portion of the discussion. Most spoke against the amendment.

In other items:
  • Council continued discussion of annexation of Tohono Chul.  The continuance was requested by the applicant.  The applicant needs more time to "shore up" support for the anexation among other property owners in the area.  For example, there is a hotel and substantial other commercial property owners in the annexation area.  The addition of Oro Valley would be a significant, positive addition to our community.
  • Council approved by a 7-0 vote the general plan amendment to allow commercial property use of the parcel located on the northeast corner of Tangerine and LaCholla. 
  • Council rejected an amendment that would add an energy component to the general plan. As Council Member Zinkin motioned, it would be best for the voters of Oro Valley to decide an addition of this nature when the 2015 general plan is considered.

Monday, October 15, 2012

Oro Valley: Meet Agenda 21

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Tomorrow evening, the Oro Valley Planning and Zoning Commission will hold public hearings on two major general plan amendments.

The first of these amendments adds an energy element to the general plan.  This energy element is the local application of Agenda 21.  Agenda 21 proscribes how you will live your life.

"High density is in. Mass transit is the future. Bike lanes are how we will get to work. Suburbs, rural areas, grass, open space, forests, elbow room are things of the past. Cars and trucks are out. Bikes and trains are in." (Source)

If you take the time to read what is being proposed, it is clear that our local government wants to tell us how to live if we are to live in Oro Valley, including tell us not to use fossil fuel; to plant only specific types of plants; to build new homes that can accommodate future solar systems; and, yes, to live in mixed used developments.  I

Implementing these requirements will add thousands to the cost of every home.  These requirements will appeal to a select few while being objectionable to  a great many.  The requirements will give people a reason not to live in Oro Valley at a time when Oro Valley is looking to attract commerce.

Most people are not familiar with Agenda 21.  It is  a plan put forth by the United Nations in 1992 that is supported by those nations who wish restrict the growth of economically successful nations like the United States.  It has never been ratified by the United States; and it is been banned from implementation in many states..  Unfortunately, it is not yet been for implementation in Arizona.  Thus, we see it rearing its head in Oro Valley.

Do you want the United Nations telling you how to live your life?  Is it the role of your government to proscribe every part of your being?  Why does Oro Valley even need this element in its general plan?  If we want to live in cities, wouldn't we be living there now?

If this is what you want, then, by all means speak up. If this not what you want, then, by all means speak up.  Either way, public input is sought and you ought to be part of the discussion.
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Wednesday, December 3, 2008

Vistoso Partners Have "Change Of Heart" On General Plan Amendments

At the Nov. 27 Oro Valley Council meeting, Vistoso Partners had three General Plan Amendments on the agenda.

One, a request more a boutique hotel on the sw corner of Oracle & Hardy roads was defeated.

Another concerned what is known as Stone Canyon area 9. That issue was continued until the Dec 3 meeting. However, the applicant has "pulled" the item, and no longer is interested in the Amendment.

The 3rd GPA, had to do with Stone Canyon area 5. That too was rescheduled for the Dec. 3 meeting, but Vistoso Partners will request a continuance until Feb. 4th. Whether or not the council decides to grant a continuance will depend on the applicant's motives. We'll know the outcome tonight.

NOTE: Item was tabled indefinitely at the Dec 3 meeting.

Read The Explorer article here.
http://www.explorernews.com/articles/2008/12/03/news/doc4935e28008aef896778022.txt

Wednesday, October 15, 2008

Oro Valley P & Z Approves Arroyo Grande General Plan Ammendment

As reported in The Explorer, the Planning & Zoning Commission last week approved the General Plan Amendment allowing the town to annex Arroyo Grande.

The OV Council will next take up this issue.

Too bad, the initiative to not develop the land never got to the ballot. Hopefully, the people will get an opportunity to speak, and this land will, for the most part, remain open space.

We'll have to see how things proceed.

http://www.explorernews.com/articles/2008/10/15/news/doc48f543379bf5b185451321.txt

Thursday, October 2, 2008

Important P & Z Meeting Tue. Oct 7 Concerning Arroyo Grande

Everyone should be concerned about the future of Arroyo Grande. Regardless of your position on any future development, this Planning & Zoning Commission meeting should offer new information. Please try to attend. Bill Adler, P & Z Commissioner offers the following.

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The amendment to the Oro Valley General Plan for the 9100 acres referred to as "Arroyo Grande" will be heard before the Planning Commission Tuesday, October 7th at 6 PM.

I know the generalities of the application are reasonably well known. What will be very important Tuesday are the conditions or Special Area Policies that may be added to any recommendation for adoption. The Staff communication that includes these suggested policies is available through the Planning Department at Town Hall.

The Special Area Policies is an attempt to address the many issues raised in previous public meetings. Within the Staff Communication, Attachment #2 contains all the Special Area Policies. The Commission may amend, revise or add to this list. It would be helpful if citizens interested in the Arroyo Grande amendment would obtain a copy of Attachment #2 and become familiar with it prior to the Tuesday meeting. Comments during the public hearing portion of the meeting specifically addressing the Special Area Policies will be particularly helpful.

A copy of the Staff Communication should be available for reading in the Administration Lobby. A hard copy could be obtained either from the Clerk's office or the Planning Department. The conceptual land use plan is available on the Town web site through the Planning & Zoning link.
If anyone has a question about any of the suggested Special Area Policies, and Sarah More at the Town is not available, don't hesitate to call me, and I'll do my best to clarify.

Bill Adler
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Friday, June 27, 2008

Oro Valley P & Z Meeting Tue. July 1 @ 6:00 PM

Please note, the time of this very important meeting on the Arroyo Grande General Plan Amendment has been changed from Tue. July 1 at 4:00 PM to 6:oo PM.

Public Hearing, OV11-08-05, Arroyo Grande General Plan Amendment.

Please see our earlier posting for details;
Please ---Be Aware, P & Z Public Hearing On Arroyo Grande July 1 @ 4:00 PM
New time is 6:00PM.

Thursday, June 19, 2008

Please ---Be Aware, P & Z Public Hearing On Arroyo Grande July 1 @ 4:00 PM

Please Try To Attend Extremely Important Meeting---

MAJOR GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT ON ARROYO GRANDE


NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING

Planning & Zoning Commission

Tuesday, July 1, 4 p.m. Oro Valley Town Hall,11000 N. La Canada' Dr.

Public Hearing: The Town of Oro Valley in conjunction with the Arizona State Land Department and their consultant Community by Design, requests approval of a Major General Plan Amendment for the 9,106 acres known as the Arroyo Grande Planning Area. The Plan area boundaries are the Tortolita Mountains to the west. the Pinal County line to the north, Oracle Road to the east, and the northern edge of the Town of Oro Valley forms the southern boundary. Additionally the Town of Marana's eastern boundary is adjacent to the southwestern portion of the Plan area, OV11-0S-Q5.

The proposed General Plan Designation will be Rural Low Density Residential, Open Space, Low Density Residential 1, Low Density Residential 2, Village Center, Commerce/Office Park and Master Planned Community.

The meeting will be held in the Town Council Chambers. The public is encouraged to attend and will be invited to speak. An agenda for this meeting will be made available at least 24 hours prior to meeting time and can be viewed at www.orovalleyaz.gov. For questions and additional information, please contact Sarah S. More,

Planning & Zoning Director,at (520) 229-4807 smore@orovalleyaz.gov.

Thursday, June 12, 2008

Az Star Reports On Rationale To Extend Doug McKee's Term On P & Z

In the June 12 Az Star, Danielle Sottosanti writes why all of the OV Council, with the exception of Mayor Loomis & Vice Mayor Kunisch thought it wise to extend Mr. McKee's term on P & Z.

What a sensible decision by this new council!

Read the story here.
http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/85737/243190

Thursday, May 8, 2008

Resident Suggests County Should Take Over Oro Valley

In his letter to The Explorer, Oro Valley resident Maurice McCarty suggests it may be prudent for Pima County to take over Oro Valley.
My only comment is this: In your 13 years here, Mr. McCarty, we've never had the luxury of a council majority that will consider the rights of the people. I believe that will finally change.
Art
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County should take over Oro Valley

It’s unfortunate that at the last election we only were able to oust two of the council. Hopefully we will oust another in May.

Three down, two to go.

I think the county should consider taking over Oro Valley. I for one would vote for it.

In the 13 years I have lived here the town council has been totally out of touch with the residents and has shown an inability to act rationally. For example: a considerable amount of time was spent developing the comprehensive plan, now a couple of years later the council appears to be leaning toward major revisions. What has changed?

It’s as if children are playing a game where you get to make up the rules as you play.

Maurice L. McCarty

Oro Valley

Potential General Plan Amendment Doesn't Please Residents

As we previously reported, the residents of Oro Valley are not happy that the property known as the Kai Property is being proposed for a General Plan Amendment.

Kathy Pastryk gave our readers a synopsis of the meeting last week. Click here to see her report.

Click to read the reports from the Az Daily Star and The Explorer here.

Saturday, May 3, 2008

WLB Meeting With Oro Valley Residents--Re: General Plan Amendment

Kathy Pastryk attended the May 1 meeting with WLB representing the Kai Property. Kathy was good enough to take notes and forward them for dissemination to our neighbors. Thanks Kathy.
Note: Kathy mentioned residents by name. I opted to delete specific names.
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Meeting on The Kai Property – May 1st

WLB, an engineering firm out of Tucson, are planners and landscape architects who have represented the Kai Family, owners of the property, for many years. They have worked in the Tucson area for many years with Westcor, Vestar and other developers.

The 271 acre Kai property extends from Tangerine Road south to Naranja on the east side of 1st Avenue. It is bisected by Palisades Avenue.

Catalina Shadows HOA sent out a two page informational sheet to all of their residents after residents demanded their right to know exactly what was might be coming our way.

On April 29, WLB’s Rob Longaker escorted nine residents on a “walk-thru” of the property. Immediately afterwards, emails were circulated in Cat Shadows and Palisades South subdivisions and even beyond, forewarning residents that an amendment to OV’s General Plan was being sought. The change would permit a senior continuing care facility with a parking lot and lighting that could be reminiscent of Splendido. WLB would like more commercial buildings with heights up to 34 feet. They also want to grade – or somehow flatten out the hilly, partially riparian land exempting slopes of over 25 degrees. WLB sent a detailed full-color map that residents received in their mail on April 30.

The May 1st meeting between the neighbors and WLB was scheduled to be held in the Hopi Room at the Town Complex, but it was transferred to Council Chambers because of the numbers of attendees which was estimated at more than 200 including the Mayor and all council members except for Terry Parish.

The meeting was conducted by Pat Klein, of OV constituent services. Bayer Vella, Principal Planner of OV, spoke on the General Plan and the process of amending it, following which Paul Oland & Rob Longaker of WLB described what the kind of development WLB wants.

Some of the vague phraseology was familiar to residents who still processing and coping with their Vestar experience. Instant déjà vu was produced by hearing that “A series of meetings is scheduled so we can’t really answer that…” and “a Neighborhood Leadership Group may be formed…” This will lower the density because “clustering of buildings in pockets of higher density will allow more open space… Also, “building heights are difficult to determine as we’re dealing with a depressed site…” and more. Buildings, they revealed could turn out to be two story town homes or apartment buildings.

During a prolonged Question and Answer, dismayed residents demonstrated that they are not only wary – but they are weary -- of the process -- of being asked to donate hour after hour of our time to earnest land use discussions and decisions -- only to have them renegotiated again and again…

What particularly concerned many citizens was that The General Plan was rather painstakingly revised almost five years ago during which an agreement was reached specifying low density single family homes

On 3 acre properties. Audience members recalled a golf course that was proposed, and one man remembered that equestrian areas were to be created “to celebrate the Western-ness of Tucson.”

A Cat Shadows resident requested that WLB reps come prepare to the next meeting prepared to specifically define some of their terminology such as “continuum of care.” He also called upon Mayor Loomis who led the charge to defeat the construction of apartments in his own home turf fo speak up for open space.

The public also served notice that we know what we want and intend to stick to our convictions…that we value desert land, the hill and riparian areas and do not want to see them leveled.

A resident told the WLB reps that we’d been “bamboozled by Vestar” and wouldn’t let that happen again. Another resident asked why we should allow an amendment “just so they can make money.”

Roadways were discussed and the audience found out that as many as three road onto Palisades are planned along with a road onto First Ave. and one onto Tangerine. rep Asked to explain, WLB's Longaker said that they had been informed that Palisades is to be a major 4-lane thoroughfare. That met with many rebukes and questions from the audience.

Council member Paula Abbott asked WLB to prepare a power point presentation that would better illustrate exactly what they are planning.

Additional meetings are coming up where community input will be sought, The principals will attempt to wear us down, but we can prevail, so let’s hang in there.

The next meeting required by law, a Planning and Zoning Hearing, will be held on July 10 to be followed by a second “Neighborhood Meeting” on July 31. A second P & Z meeting will be scheduled, date to be decided.

On November 19 the Town Council will hear all sides and vote on whether to approve the proposed amendment. A super majority of 5 votes will be required for approval of a General Plan amendment – so be sure to follow closely, attend as many meetings as possible, talk to your friends and neighbors, and contact council members to tell them how you feel about The Kai Property.

Kathy Pastryk

Wednesday, April 30, 2008

Thu. May 1--- WLB Group Meeting With Homeowners

One last reminder--- Tomorrow night, Thursday MAY 1@ 6:00PM--WLB Group will meet with homeowners in the HOPI ROOM at Town Hall to discuss their request for a General Plan Amendment for the parcel known as The Kai Property.

Try to attend---especially if you are a resident off of Palisades Rd. (off of 1st ave.)

Previous posts on this issue: Oh! Oh! Developer Will Seek A Major General Plan Amendment<

Saturday, April 19, 2008

Reminder---May 1 Meeting --- WLB Group Seeking General Plan Amendment

Bill Adler, a member of the Planning & Zoning Commission, and an individual who is extremely knowledgeable on the General Plan, met with a number of residents that will be directly impacted if the area known as the Kai property gets an amendment to the General Plan that the developer is proposing.

Please see our posting on this dated April 15
Oh! Oh! Developer Will Seek A Major General Plan Amendment

Bill sent me an email. Following is an excerpt from his message.
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There is a neighborhood meeting with the applicant on May 1st, 6 PM in the Hopi Room in the Community Development Building at Town Hall.

Following the neighborhood meeting, I believe the P&Z will hold a site tour; a study session and then the public hearings on the amendment will begin in July.

I would hope that Neighborhood meetings on the Kai property will be productive. One of the criteria that must be met in order to approve any amendment is that the proposal be consistent with goals and policies in the Plan. On any given amendment application, there may be three dozen policies that directly relates to the project where consistency could be questioned.
The amendment proposal for the Kai property is significant, because the proposal is to change the property from one acre lots to multiple use, including a variety of housing densities, commercial, and retail. Included in the commercial use is a continuing care facility, like Splendido. These are campus like and take a lot of space, and can be quite sizable.

Bill

Tuesday, April 15, 2008

Oh! Oh! Developer Will Seek A Major General Plan Amendment

Look out! The WLB Group will be having a meeting with neighbors in The Hopi Room at Town Hall on May 1 @ 6:00PM. They are seeking a major amendment to the General Plan.

The area of concern is the 271 acre Kai property on the east side of First Ave. between
Lambert Lane and Tangerine Road. It is extends north and south of Palisades Road, which is the only access road for thousands of neighbors.

A General Plan Amendment would be necessary to allow for all kinds of commercial entities in what is now a predominately residential area.

If you have any concerns, you should consider attending this meeting.