Thursday, September 26, 2013

Short Stuff: Last Week's Council Meeting


Here's some of the "stuff" that we have not reported that occurred at last week's Oro Valley council meeting:
  • The Oro Valley Youth Advisory Council is making its plans for this year.  One short term idea presented to council is a youth-senior tech day, where they would help seniors learn technology.

  • As we reported previously, the council did approve measures to bring its governance in concert with the change in election timing.  All council members will serve through November of the last year of their term.  The Vice Mayor position can now be occupied by any council member, regardless of when their term ends. (See our prior post)
  • Council Member Hornat spent 3 minutes refuting a letter of Council Member Zinkin's that appeared in the Explorer, a regional free, advertiser paid paper.  Hornat read the parks and recreation budget into the record.   Council Member Hornat stated that Council Member Zinkin of funding a recall effort against Hornat and Council Member Snider.  This recall effort took place in the summer of 2011.  Watch the video on the right.  It is Hornat in "attack mode."
  • Council approved 7-0 an actuarial study to see if the town wants our elected officials to join the state retirement program for elected officials before the program requires them to provide for their own retirement through a defined contribution program.  "Its pretty comical when you do the math," noted Council Member Snider. She noted that it may cost the town more to administer the program than it was worth.  "It also requires five years all tenure in your position," noted council member Hornat. "Perhaps that's why Oro Valley Never had..." a retirement program for elected officials.
  • Approved  by a 7-0 vote the translation of Pima County zones to the equivalent Oro Valley zones for the annexed area known as Oracle/Ina.  There were 3 exiting zones that were converted to comparable Oro Valley zoning codes.
  • Approved amendments such that the Environmental Sensitive Lands Ordinance can be applied to general plan all general plan amendments.
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17 comments:

Conny said...


Point Of Order! Clearly the Mayor doesn't have a clue on how to run a meeting.

Consistently the same Council Members attack both other CM's and personally attack members of the public.

Why is this permitted?

Why are Roberts Rules of Order not enforced?

Unknown said...

I don't care if it cost TOV more to administer a defined contribution plan for elected officials, DO NOT ALLOW THEM to participate in the gravy train known as ASRS!

Nombe Watanabe said...

I want to see someone call for an independent audit of OV police dept. overtime accounts!!!

OV Objective Thinker said...

Conny......The truth is that you don't have a clue as to what is the truth. That fact is easily verified by by the lies to posted about a sitting council person and the signs you were responsible for. And the truth spoken about another is not an attack.

Unknown said...

Don,

I hope this finds you well; I am worried because this post of yours borders on non-sensical....

OV Objective Thinker said...

Chris....
I am well, thank you.

It made pretty good sense to me. Conny is being critical of the Mayor for not running a meeting well because he allows "the same Council Members attack both other CM's and personally attack members of the public."

My point is that a statement of truth is not an attack. Hornat didn't attack the king of sexual harassment Zinkin, he simply told the truth.

Unknown said...

OVOT must not attend or watch Oro Valley Council Meetings. Mayor Hiremath is the king of sexual harassment. During presentations he touches and put his arms around every female recipient. This is done without requesting permission. This makes me very nervous.

OV Objective Thinker said...

Cares....The fact that the Mayor possibly shakes hands and has a professional embrace with female award recepients and the fact that "makes you very nervous" really doesn't mean a whip.

Your comment also indicates that you really don't know what relationships need to be present to qualify for sexual harassment. I would suggest that you do some homework on the subject.

Two complaints have been filed against Mike Zinkin for actions that, given the result of past court cases, clearly fall into the category of sexual harassment.

We (TOV) are fortunate that no court action has been initiated.

Nombe Watanabe said...

Yes we are lucky we, the OV taxpayers, are not paying for further court actions like we did for the OVPD participation in the SWAT team. (see other posts)

We can only afford so much. Maybe the police union could kick in a few bucks to help the tax payers pay for the not so well trained SWAT teams errors.

Victorian Cowgirl said...

OVOT said..."And the truth spoken about another is not an attack."

Whaddaya know...I agree with OVOT. And now I must point out the following:

The OVPOA memo is filled with lies, accusations, and false assumptions ALL stated as facts. Therefore, according to OVOT, the OVPOA memo is an attack, NOT the truth. Son of a gun, looks like I agree with OVOT again!

Victorian Cowgirl said...

It sure is interesting how when Bill Garner speaks the truth during a council meeting, Hiremath is quick to bang the gavel and call a point of order. Then when Hornat, et. al. tells half-truths (also known as "creative lying") Hiremath remains silent. THIS is what others are talking about when they accuse him of not knowing how to run a meeting.

Watching him run these meetings for the past few years, I'd say that he apparently knows how to run it when it suits him and then conveniently forgets how to run it when THAT suits him.

His immaturity and bullying behavior are an embarrassment to this town. At least Loomis always ran a professional meeting and acted like an adult.

Richard Furash, MBA said...

Greetings All,

One of the goals of the blog is to facilitate a civil dialogue among commenters.

I have been monitoring the comments on this posting. In this posting, OVOT has chosen to attack an individual, in this case sitting council member Zinkin, with accusations of sexual harassment.

OVOT's comments are off-base. His comments on Zinkin are not the subject of the posting. This blog is not the place to post off-base, insulting comments regarding anyone.

I know OVOT. He can be quite engaging and logical. And certainly civil. He is knowledgeable of Oro Valley matters and can bring insight and value to our conversations. Why he chooses to continue to move off-base is a mystery to me.

It would be far better for OVOT to comment on the substance of our postings and to not foster arguments and to not spread accusations.

The days when the LOVE blog was a place for such are long past.

Richard

OV Objective Thinker said...

Richard....

Thanks for your kind comments.

My comments on this thread are clearly a response to other's comments on the original post. If you are going to give me crap about sticking to ONLY the original post then you should be fair and do it for all.

The Mayor isn't even mentioned any yet Conny rags the Mayor about his ability to run a meeting.

Nombe talks about over time.

Cares brings up an accusation against the Mayor for sexual harassment.

VC talks about the OVPOA letter.

And just for the record, I am not attacking Zinkin for sexual harassment, I am repeating what has already been reported in the newspaper.





Unknown said...

The mayor was most certainly mentioned in the paper's article!

OV Objective Thinker said...

Cares......I believe we are refering to Furash's original post on this blog, not the newspaper article.

I have another post ready to respond to that post. :-)

Nombe Watanabe said...

I for one, thank the blog for giving us an opportunity to vent. For the most part we have civil exchanges with just the right amount of edge.

I think we all love our community and each other. Every family is prone to spirited discourse.

Now if everybody would just agree with me about the audit of the police overtime, then all would be right with the world.

r u kidding me said...

Nombe, I agree completely with auditing the PD, their overtime and anything that needs to be audited in their department.