Tuesday, October 6, 2009

Thanks To Caveat Lector Blog For Publicizing David Andrew's Termination

We appreciate that Mark Evans saw fit to publicize our blog on his Caveat Lector Blog. A point of clarification. We did not write or suggest that we ever were given information from any Executive Sessions of the Oro Valley Council from any Council Member.

Additionally, David Andrews had a very cordial relationship with Carter well before he (David) became the Town Manager.

Please read what Mr. Evans had to say.

http://tucsoncitizen.com/mark-evans/archives/97

4 comments:

Richard Furash, MBA said...

Art.. The Gadfly?

What's a gadfly anyway?

LOL

artmarth said...

Let me say this about that. I would have preferred if Mark Evans had used a more endearing term----like "concerned citizen," but so be it.

Gadfly: One may say a gadfly is a person who stimulates or annoys especially by persistent criticism.

I guess that may be an appropriate description.

Oro Valley Mom said...

Art,

The term "gadfly" is something of a political compliment.

"Plato refers to Socrates as the 'gadfly' of the state (as the gadfly stings the horse into action, so Socrates stung Athens), insofar as he irritated the establishment with considerations of justice and the pursuit of goodness. His attempts to improve the Athenians' sense of justice may have been the source of his execution.

"According to Plato's Apology, Socrates' life as the 'gadfly' of Athens began when his friend Chaerephon asked the oracle at Delphi if anyone was wiser than Socrates; the Oracle responded that none was wiser. Socrates believed that what the Oracle had said was a paradox, because he believed he possessed no wisdom whatsoever. He proceeded to test the riddle through approaching men who were considered to be wise by the people of Athens, such as statesmen, poets, and artisans, in order to refute the pronouncement of the Oracle. But questioning them, Socrates came to the conclusion that, while each man thought he knew a great deal and was very wise, they in fact knew very little and were not really wise at all. Socrates realized that the Oracle was correct, in that while so-called wise men thought themselves wise and yet were not, he himself knew he was not wise at all which, paradoxically, made him the wiser one since he was the only person aware of his own ignorance. Socrates' paradoxical wisdom made the prominent Athenians he publicly questioned look foolish, turning them against him and leading to accusations of wrongdoing. Socrates defended his role as a gadfly until the end: at his trial, when Socrates was asked to propose his own punishment, he suggests a wage paid by the government and free dinners for the rest of his life instead, to finance the time he spends as Athens' benefactor."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socrates

artmarth said...

"Mom"--- I too saw that definition, but knowing Mark Evans from his days as the editor of The Explorer, I wasn't too sure if he was being THAT COMPLIMENTARY to me.

Thanks for your input.

I guess the best definition will be up to our readers. After all, "beauty is in the eyes of the beholder."