Wednesday, July 16, 2008

Thankfully--- No New Road Through The Tortolita's And Through The La Cholla Air Park

Thanks to Paula Abbott, who brought the issue to the forefront, our neighbors, especially those in the La Cholla Air Park community, were thankful the Oro Valley Council voted unanimously not to consider any new road that would cut through this mountain & desert land.

The item on the agenda was stated as:

PRESENTATION, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON
REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR STUDIES INCLUDING
STUDIES RELATED TO THE LA CHOLLA BOULEVARD EXTENSION
FROM TANGERINE ROAD TO ORACLE JUNCTION AS IDENTIFIED
WITHIN BOTH THE STATE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM AND
REGIONAL CIRCULATION NEEDS FEASIBILITY STUDY (LOOP
STUDY) AND THE SOUTHERN PINAL/NORTHERN PIMA CORRIDORS
DEFINITION STUDY

Town engineer Craig Civilier noted there were no plans on taking any action on extending La Cholla Blvd north of Tangerine road.

The council's vote was greeted by loud applause from the audience.

7 comments:

Richard Furash, MBA said...

Good decision.

However, there is a consequence. That is that Oracle Road, regardless of how wide it is, remains the only viable route south from Oro Valley for thousands.

Imagine how bad it will be if Arroyo Grande got approved.

Zev Cywan said...

One of the consequences should be that little or no development take place in areas that would require travel to and from these pockets. The 'lay of the land' should dictate how it can or should be utilized. Nobody seems to want to hear it here but Marana has plenty of room and topography to accomodate extended commercial centers as well as housing developments; my opinion, let them have it. The old saying,"those who forget history are doomed to repeat it" applies to situations like these, too. Example: for many years the San Francisco Bay Area built new bridges to alleviate traffic jams. The result was that, aha, now we can move more traffic so we can build more houses, etc. And the jams continued. So, the Area built a rapid transit system, BART; aha, now that we can move more people around we can build more houses, etc.; and the jams continued. So, more roads were carved over the beautiful hills; aha, now we can build even more houses, etc.; and the jams still continue. Want gridlock? Build more roads - over, through, and around the mountains.
You WILL get it!!!

ARE YOU BEGINNING TO GET THE PICTURE? Once an area gets started with 'adjusting' arterials whether it be a new road (future freeway), rapid transit, tunnels, etc., well, THERE GOES THE NEIGHBORHOOD!

This area needs to stop and think,
not about how to ruin the future but about how to accomodate the today and PRESERVE the hereafter - and, then, simply learn to live with it.

Want to see what gridlock is like?
Take a drive around Washington, DC;
take a drive around Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill, NC; take a drive around Atlanta; take a drive in Los Angeles. If you want that here, let development have it's way and let the destruction begin!


Congratulations to the Council, each and everyone, for tackling this potential abomination and, at least for now, stopping it dead in it's tracks.

Victorian Cowgirl said...

Zev just gave me an idea for a sign to protest Arroyo Grande...

GOT GRIDLOCK?

Zev Cywan said...

Excellent VC 'cause that's exactly what will happen if this 'development' takes place.

OV Objective Thinker said...

Hi All...

I think most of what has been said here is pretty accurate.

The two primary issues associated with Arroyo Grande (AG) are water and transportation. Both CAN be solved one way or another...and I am not (at this time) advocating that we develop to the scale of the current plans.

But what I am advocating that if we want to control AG WE MUST ANNEX the area.

I do not believe for one minute that Pima County will protect/look out for our interests. They have already partially blocked the one remaining area for an undisturbed wildlife corridor between the Catalina and Tortilita ranges south of Saddlebrooke.

Zev Cywan said...

OV OT

The only answer is NOT that it's simply Oro Valley vs Pima County, it's the development of that area PERIOD! Water problem solveable? That's pure speculation and voodoo science. Traffic problem solvable? If that were true, how come extreme congestion (as well as pollution from idling vehicles) has been unsolvable in those places I mention above as well as many, many other areas THROUGHOUT the country. Rapid transit gimmicks, while working to some extent for the relative few in large METROPOLITAN centers, has simply opened the doors for more development, and thus increased traffic, and then more roads and then more development and then more traffic, ad infinitem. Once one road is tweaked to 'fit', then it becomes easier and easier to 'tweak' some more. As development spirals, so does the need for water; as the need for water spirals, the 'solutions' abilities inevitably diminish.

Ya just can't move people locked in by the lay of the land and ya just can't squeeze water out of a dry heat.

How 'bout the other alternative; leave that area to it's natural self and LET ORO VALLEY EXCEL!

artmarth said...

Zev--- It seems to me any rational person will understand your concerns and agree with your assessment---Oro Valley should not annex the area, especially with an initiative pending.

There will be too many "unintended consequences" --- water issues, traffic issues, wildlife corridor issues, infrastructure issues head the list.

As you so eloquently stated: "How 'bout the other alternative; leave that area to it's natural self and LET ORO VALLEY EXCEL!"