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To Art & Friends:
I had the opportunity to watch the blading and leveling of the part of Oro Valley that is in the vicinity of Oracle Road and Tangerine. I saw from the vantage of our new Northwest Community Medical Center a great deal of earth redistribution. It seems the grading limits only apply to the those that are not named Vestar or Ventana.
Vestar has already imported a mountain from Catalina, actually, Saddlebrooke Drive, by my estimate as many as 20,000 truck-loads. I watched as the parade of trucks, large 15 to 20 cubic yard belly dumpers disgorged their pile behind our houses. The number is crosschecked by the need to come up at least 2 feet on a large portion of the 100 acre Wally World Shopping Center to get it out of the flood plain. But don't get me wrong I don't think they are messing with mother nature. However that imported fill was not enough apparently as they are scrapping the lower areas west of the site, public land, to get more dirt and fill. If the council and others will get off of their _a---s and go to the site they will see utility poles sticking up out of what looks like mini pyramids. What you need to realize is that the top is the original ground level and the base is the new ground level at least so far.
Vestar has already imported a mountain from Catalina, actually, Saddlebrooke Drive, by my estimate as many as 20,000 truck-loads. I watched as the parade of trucks, large 15 to 20 cubic yard belly dumpers disgorged their pile behind our houses. The number is crosschecked by the need to come up at least 2 feet on a large portion of the 100 acre Wally World Shopping Center to get it out of the flood plain. But don't get me wrong I don't think they are messing with mother nature. However that imported fill was not enough apparently as they are scrapping the lower areas west of the site, public land, to get more dirt and fill. If the council and others will get off of their _a---s and go to the site they will see utility poles sticking up out of what looks like mini pyramids. What you need to realize is that the top is the original ground level and the base is the new ground level at least so far.
As if that wasn't enough activity, the regrading of the north side of Tangerine is also going like gangbusters, I'm not sure who is responsible for this one, but I heard that WLB Group is requesting a land swap deal to getVentana more room south of their existing site.
I have heard from folks that have been here longer than I , (that's 10 years,) that in the 80's we had a flood that submerged the Oracle Road bridge over the CDO wash. If that were to happen now we would loose the Rams Canyon subdivision along with a lot of other property on the east side of Oracle. If that were to happen and there was loss of life who would step up to take the blame. I think then we would get the investigation into the dealings and secret goings on in this town that we deserve I just hope it doesn't take a disaster.
Oh; and I wish to thank Vestar for the dust storm last evening!
Al Heinze
(Note from Art: Be grateful it was ONLY a dust storm, and not Valley Fever!)
(Note from Art: Be grateful it was ONLY a dust storm, and not Valley Fever!)
5 comments:
I have heard of this flood and that houses were washed away.
Where can we get additional information about this.
If developers are involved and it means profit for them anything is possible.
I noticed some strange looking fake looking wall structure on the mall site, anybody know what that is.
Does any of this affect Rancho Vistoso? Not that we can trust the town to tell us.
Let's not forget the POND that they have on the Oro Valley Marketplace building site. They have enough water to build during a Stage 2 Water Emergency; while we can't water our plants whenever we want.
Go figure.
A lot of whining going on here for very legal activity that was previously disclosed in the development plan, if you had only taken the time to check.
I can appreciate your objectivity when one of you thinks a dust storm was created by Vestar and another would like to terrorize the population with a Valley Fever threat.
Don't either of you have something better to do???
I golfed today and wasn't stricken by any disease or choked by any event created by Vestar. I must be one of the lucky ones!!!
:-)
Objective thinking relies on city planners who look at these maps and authorize building in areas they calculate to be safe. However, just last year the town of Marana and the Cortaro Farms area had to evacuate over 80 families from a storm that dropped over an inch of rain. Article: http://www.azstarnet.com/allheadlines/140407.php
The area history shows far more rain has fallen, in 1983 seven to nine inches of rain fell in a two week period where all bridges except one in the Tucson metro area were damaged or washed away creating about 105.7 million dollars in damage. 1993 between five and nine inches of rain damaged most of the bridges over the Santa Cruz where the town suffered fourteen million dollars in damage.
Since I have lived in town Oracle road has closed a couple times because of flooding where erosion around the bridge has made the bridge unsafe. In 1983 it was wiped out.
A constant theme from our city government is their ability in making decisions without understanding or taking in account future ramifications. It appears that building permits are issued from “out of date” flood plan maps without considering “real world” flood levels. This new construction can only make things worse by speeding up the water flow from future parking lots or store roof tops. What are the future ramifications for everyone down stream? Time will tell.
Objective Thinker,
I think your problem is that the only things you read are town documents, development plans, zoning codes, etc. Perhaps if you took some time to read some scientific studies, you'd be more of an "objective" thinker.
You don't think it's possible that the Vestar site caused the dust storm. That's interesting because I read that dust storms are created when land is cleared for construction, leaving nothing behind but a pile of dirt.
I also read that Valley Fever incidents rise whenever major construction projects take place, kicking up all the dirt and releasing the mold spores into the air.
You said you played golf today and "wasn't stricken by any disease." Since you were discussing Valley Fever, this must be the disease to which you were referring. Once again, if you read anything other than zoning regulations, you would know that Valley Fever symptoms do not appear the moment you inhale the spores. They appear weeks later. So you actually have no way of knowing that you weren't stricken by the disease today, but yet you state it as FACT!
Once again, your facts are based on limited knowledge and once again your facts are wrong.
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