Wednesday, February 14, 2007

VESTAR'S MARKETPLACE

Two letters to the editor February 14, 2007 edition of the "Explorer":

Will others get the same perks as Vestar?

In response to the Jan. 31 guest opinion written by David Malin of Vestar, developer of Oro Valleyâs Marketplace, I would agree that at least the company he represents has come up with a great, exclusive way to do business.

On the other hand, I am concerned that our council has not really learned from the past. At one time, there was a great opportunity, we were told, to have a luxury hotel in town. The town decided not to let the big one get away. Located close to the exclusive Stone Canyon golf course, it boasts a gigantic waterfall showing that there is plenty of water in Oro Valley, besides martinis.

To assure that the hotel was really coming, they set up all kinds of financial help. Also, they built a water supply tank, something that we had to live without in Sun City.

But, the hoteliers decided that all that was not enough, and they took their business elsewhere. It was a tragicomedy without par: Council members went into hiding as citizens asked what happened.

The tragedy is not really that the hotel space has remained empty to this day, but that due to the unfailing law of unintended consequences — in this case the 14th Constitutional Amendment, which ensures equal protection under the law — other hotels came forward demanding that they be granted equal tax exemptions. The town got no hotel and had to give back tax monies they had intended to keep.

And this is exactly what is going to happen with other commercial developers regarding Vestar’s incentive. Since Vestar has a share of sales-tax revenue, we want it too, they’ll say.

Let’s hope that some enterprising lawyer does not want to apply this retroactively, as the El Conquistador did before.

Hector Conde,
Oro Valley
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Vestar tenants will change OV for worse

When we moved to Oro Valley just four years ago, we moved to a town with two-lane roads and no sidewalks or traffic lights to speak of. It was peaceful with minimal traffic and therefore no noise, no congestion and no pollution. Four years later, and we now have four-lane roads, traffic lights, and a soon-to-be shopping mall with Wal-Mart, of all things, as a main attraction.

We were content to have a grocery store, post office and gas station within a convenient, 10-minute drive because these are places that we (and most people) visit once or twice a week. Otherwise, we were happy to drive 20 to 30 minutes for a monthly haircut, a monthly shopping mall trip or a twice-yearly trip to an electronics or furniture store. We didn’t need or want every known retail establishment and big box store located in our backyard. If that’s what we wanted, we would have moved to the city. Who goes to Best Buy on such a regular basis that they need the convenience of it being right in their neighborhood?

And didn’t Vestar promise us a “unique” mall with stores not found in “Anywhere, USA?” So how did we end up with Wal-Mart and Best Buy? In 2005, the top three police call sites in Tucson were Wal-Mart, Park Place Mall and Tucson Mall. What does this say for the future of Oro Valley?

Don Cox (“Flawed Argument then, now, later,” Letters to the Editor, Feb. 7) seems to think that a big plus of having the new mall in town will be “the air pollution you won’t create by not driving to Tucson or Marana.” What about all the people from Tucson and Marana, not to mention SaddleBrooke, Oracle and Catalina who will be driving to Oro Valley to shop at the new mall? Won’t they be bringing their auto pollution into Oro Valley?

We’ll never understand why people move to an out-of-the-way place and then immediately start complaining that everything is too far away. If the most important things to you are convenience and a nearby Wal-Mart and Best Buy, why then did you move to Oro Valley?

Robert and Diane Peters,
Oro Valley

4 comments:

Oro Valley Mom said...

Of course other developers are going to ask for the same corporate welfare. They already have! What was the tax break given to Oracle Crossings?

And regarding the traffic, what about all the people who will need to travel from Tucson, Catalina, San Manuel, Marana, etc., just to work at WalMart? Certainly nobody can afford to live in Oro Valley for the kind of wages and benefits they get at WalMart!

artmarth said...

Responding to "oro valley mom,"---we got off "cheap" on the Oracle Crossing "Giveaway." That one was approved on 3/25/04 and for "ONLY" $6.5 million!
By the way, in case you missed it, the recipient of the giveaway, BP Magee (Bourne Partners) is selling to a new developer. Does that mean, we save on the giveaway? Think again. The contract included a "pass along cause." Once again, the citizens of Oro Valley got "snookered!"

Kathy Pastryk said...

Lately we've heard a louder than normal murmur about taxes.

It isn't simply the idea of paying taxes that turns people off so
much as it's the skepticism with the reason behind the frequent
requests for tax increases. People hate to see their hard-
earned money wasted and who can blame them?

Why do we repeatedly hear that we need a higher tax for utilities?
Is it that the price of gas, electricity and water keeps steadily going up?

Partly -- but the town has spent money unwisely, and now it is trying to
get the people to pony up again to pull them out of hock.

Example Number One: Look at what our council's $23.2 million dollar
giveaway to Vestar has produced for us: Wal-Mart!

What a prize at such a price!!

Well, why do you think the town has been pushing to increase the police
protection for OV? Oro Valley, ponder this one:

Could council have known that Wal-Mart was on its way? Anyone who
went to the Vestar website had to have known that Wal-Mart was very likely
on its way.

SOVOG told us that over and over, but how many listened to SOVOG when
the shiny Vestar ads and their cheesy promises were so much nicer to believe in?

We know what big box stores bring with them when they come into a town.
A five letter word beginning with "C."

Kathy Pastryk

Oro Valley Mom said...

Kathy,

Do you mean c-r-i-m-e?

As in, it's a crime how the Oro Valley taxpayers were taken for a ride with this scam?

As in, it's a crime that Vestar is assuring people that Oro Valley police will be patrolling the Marketplace and its loop road?

As in, it's a crime how a certain council member who is always trying to get more money for more police officers and more of their BMW motorcycles found a way to get it with a new utility tax?

As in, it's a crime that Vestar and WalMart are laughing all the way to the bank with their tax breaks while the Oro Valley citizens pick up the bill for the increased security needs?

For more information on how WalMart increases crime in a community, click here.