tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post8721253025901827203..comments2023-10-04T01:00:46.984-07:00Comments on LOVE: Let Oro Valley Excel: Got Your Ballot? Vote For Mike Zinkin For Oro Valley MayorRichard Furash, MBAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11114566215839912640noreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-26105330442633533062010-02-17T17:56:37.930-07:002010-02-17T17:56:37.930-07:00OV Dad,
With the Moral Majority, retirees who str...OV Dad,<br /><br />With the Moral Majority, retirees who struggled to remain married into Golden years to #1 spouse because their families gave that example, their church and Jesus Christ encouraged that, and because of the widespread disintegration of family as the basic unit of society, you are out of touch with reality. If you think this is DV's voice only,let the voters tell you Desert Voicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09202412114505804744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-69573696047575557032010-02-16T22:01:32.596-07:002010-02-16T22:01:32.596-07:00Disregard my last post....I cannot at this time co...Disregard my last post....I cannot at this time confirm as fact and therfore, vote and move on.OV Objective Thinkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01026296138234301505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-21951899123349444352010-02-16T20:05:50.295-07:002010-02-16T20:05:50.295-07:00I would strongly suggest to everyone who reads thi...I would strongly suggest to everyone who reads this blog to hang on to your ballot until Friday as there will be important information available to you that MAY make a difference on who you vote for in the Town Council election.<br /><br />Thanks.<br /><br />OVOTOV Objective Thinkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01026296138234301505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-50287230752742471112010-02-16T20:00:23.653-07:002010-02-16T20:00:23.653-07:00To All....The bottom line to some of Ms. Latas'...To All....The bottom line to some of Ms. Latas' post is that it is completely false information.<br /><br />Just go to the video and LISTEN!!!<br /><br />More to follow.OV Objective Thinkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01026296138234301505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-72255799769022068642010-02-16T15:48:31.036-07:002010-02-16T15:48:31.036-07:00Thanks, Art. That's a correction that needs to...Thanks, Art. That's a correction that needs to be made in the minutes.Salettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01928309749171198663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-63300519146835012912010-02-16T15:31:20.414-07:002010-02-16T15:31:20.414-07:00One minor clarification to Salette's last comm...One minor clarification to Salette's last comment.<br /><br />She referred to KC Carter as "Vice Mayor Carter," and Bill Garner as "Vice Mayor."<br /><br />Carter was at the time Vice Mayor. Bill is now the Vice Mayor.artmarthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13882439837604827576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-23879762129592324582010-02-16T15:18:44.813-07:002010-02-16T15:18:44.813-07:00From the draft minutes:
Chris DeSimone, Oro Valle...From the draft minutes:<br /><br />Chris DeSimone, Oro Valley resident, spoke about how employees work for elected officials whether they are on or off the clock. He stated that they are municipal employees so it would be a classic conflict of interest. <br /><br />Matthew Rabb, Oro Valley resident and Oro Valley candidate for councilmember, stated that political pressure occurs during and after Salettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01928309749171198663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-27966022505551789542010-02-16T15:18:33.040-07:002010-02-16T15:18:33.040-07:00All Oro Valley residents, including those who are ...All Oro Valley residents, including those who are also town employees, are of course encouraged to vote, sign petitions, and express opinions on their own time. <br /><br />The motion that I said I would oppose was to have Policy 29 changed to remove Item 2 which says "No employee may take part in the campaign of a candidate participating in an Oro Valley municipal election."<br /><br /Salettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01928309749171198663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-3002536249334891482010-02-16T13:47:44.696-07:002010-02-16T13:47:44.696-07:00Marriage? Christian Right? Life-Style?
Where di...Marriage? Christian Right? Life-Style? <br /><br />Where did all of this crap come from? <br /><br />We should care about taxes and city services and the best candidates for our town. <br /><br />Concentrate on the issues. Vote, move on.Nombe Watanabehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11659475481039950174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-3086645791495051082010-02-16T05:49:17.856-07:002010-02-16T05:49:17.856-07:00"Sorry for your circumstances growing up...an..."Sorry for your circumstances growing up...and glad that you felt the love of two parents even though they were not married."<br /><br />Desert Voice,<br /><br />Even though they are not married? My point was being married has nothing to do with loving your children. Absolutely nothing. There is no causation, and the correlation is probably really small as well. How many children were OVDadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04309375525017706215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-38162650669776561112010-02-16T00:05:45.947-07:002010-02-16T00:05:45.947-07:00Thinker,
Regarding your lack of attendance at the...Thinker,<br /><br />Regarding your lack of attendance at the forums, yes, I did know that you were at the OVPD prescription take-back event during the Library forum. I didn't know you were visiting a sick relative during the Chamber forum. For what reason did you also miss the Sun City forum?<br /><br />How do you know that you've spent more time with the candidates than I have?<br /><Victorian Cowgirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07705757131004376446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-14695038912236654382010-02-15T23:52:31.491-07:002010-02-15T23:52:31.491-07:00Thinker,
You mentioned hypocrisy in two separate ...Thinker,<br /><br />You mentioned hypocrisy in two separate posts. One post referred to the "hypocrisy" of Art stating that certain candidates should not be trusted because they're supported by special interests (eg. Chamber of Commerce) while at the same time Art himself is endorsing candidates. My follow-up comment referred to that statement.<br /><br />You also said that Art&#Victorian Cowgirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07705757131004376446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-14357705910128501182010-02-15T21:09:30.547-07:002010-02-15T21:09:30.547-07:00OV Dad,
Sorry for your circumstances growing up.....OV Dad,<br /><br />Sorry for your circumstances growing up...and glad that you felt the love of two parents even though they were not married.<br /><br />This is an issue only if you are a running for public office. Unless you run for an elected office, what happens in your private life is your business. Once you jump into the public arena, all aspects of your life are under scrutiny.<br /><br />Desert Voicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09202412114505804744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-59198680277353827692010-02-15T18:49:37.511-07:002010-02-15T18:49:37.511-07:00Ms. Latas....I would suggest that you pay more att...Ms. Latas....I would suggest that you pay more attention to the proceedings. Mr. Kunisch made a motion to allow town employees to participate on their own time. You stated that you would oppose that motion.<br /><br />If you cannot see the hypocracy then there is no need to repeat it. You hide behind a Town policy when it is convenient. <br /><br />If you vote(and I believe you are not in a OV Objective Thinkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01026296138234301505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-58159291962637835762010-02-15T17:47:50.622-07:002010-02-15T17:47:50.622-07:00Cowgirl.....
You are beginning to sound less logi...Cowgirl.....<br /><br />You are beginning to sound less logical each time you enter these waters. (No offense to Lou)<br /><br />"Therefore, ANYONE who posts on this blog, including you, is a special interest." <br /><br />That is a silly (far to nice of a term )statement. The folks that post on this blog are primarily posting some form of response to the "proprietor's" OV Objective Thinkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01026296138234301505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-18291136416930063092010-02-15T16:44:55.964-07:002010-02-15T16:44:55.964-07:00This is the second time I am commenting here, beca...This is the second time I am commenting here, because I can no longer take it. <br /><br />This statement has driven me insane:<br /><br />OV wants to support and attract young families. Will these families want someone in the top job who does not commit to marriage? What kind of role model will that be for their children? Or do you, as a business man, grant immunity to such a candidate because OVDadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04309375525017706215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-13118320786416987942010-02-15T16:29:57.971-07:002010-02-15T16:29:57.971-07:00To those that may not realize it---Everyone has a ...To those that may not realize it---Everyone has a choice to read our blog or not. <br /><br />Everyone has a choice to comment or not.<br /><br />As an astute blogger noted just the other day----if you don't like what we say or who we choose to support, start your own blog.<br /><br />That's exactly what The Zeeman & I did a few years ago.<br /><br />From the emails & text artmarthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13882439837604827576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-65839102228435629852010-02-15T16:05:49.810-07:002010-02-15T16:05:49.810-07:00'Special Interest': "A person or grou...'Special Interest': "A person or group seeking to influence legislative or government policy to further often narrowly defined interests" - Merriam-Webster Dictionary.<br /><br />Let the shoe fit whomever or whatever it may. Let those who wish, parse to their advantage, whatever they may. <br /><br />Frankly, I am sick and tired of all of the dung that has permeated the politicsUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14516785848295498779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-61666859051112275552010-02-15T15:32:29.075-07:002010-02-15T15:32:29.075-07:00Thinker,
You said, "Not all candidates have ...Thinker,<br /><br />You said, "Not all candidates have attended all forums."<br /><br />To which I must state that YOU have not attended ANY forums. I know this because I have attended all of them and you were not present at ANY of them.<br /><br />I know you interviewed them as a member of the Chamber, but as such, you only know their answers to THOSE questions and how they presented Victorian Cowgirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07705757131004376446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-82522452009180350422010-02-15T15:27:44.020-07:002010-02-15T15:27:44.020-07:00Bravo to Salette and V Cowgirl!
OVOT,
Many women...Bravo to Salette and V Cowgirl!<br /><br />OVOT,<br /><br />Many women voters will be offended by the other candidates lifestyle choices. Have you considered how many women are part of the Christian Right? <br /><br />My guess, OVOT, that you and yours never weighed in on what McNamara's candid info would do to voters who are religious and female.Desert Voicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09202412114505804744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-17812388813852408632010-02-15T15:24:46.858-07:002010-02-15T15:24:46.858-07:00Thinker,
When Art brought up your relationship wi...Thinker,<br /><br />When Art brought up your relationship with Kunisch, you responded, "I am not a candidate and neither is Kunisch."<br /><br />OK, so why do you keep bringing Salette into the argument? She is not a candidate either!Victorian Cowgirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07705757131004376446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-27724756793722706632010-02-15T15:13:01.245-07:002010-02-15T15:13:01.245-07:00Thinker,
You state that, "Mr. Segal and his ...Thinker,<br /><br />You state that, "Mr. Segal and his blog are a 'special interest.'" You state that, "Art has an agenda and this blog and his postings support his own agenda (special interest)."<br /><br />Therefore, ANYONE who posts on this blog, including you, is a special interest. That's not MY definition of special interest.<br /><br />I don't see thisVictorian Cowgirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07705757131004376446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-10898990088347438082010-02-15T14:51:46.938-07:002010-02-15T14:51:46.938-07:00The topic of employee political activity was discu...The topic of employee political activity was discussed at the January 20 council meeting.<br />You can watch the video here under item 5:<br /><br />http://orovalley.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=5&clip_id=829<br /><br />You’ll see that I never made any such statement. (You can also hear Matt Rabb address the council.)<br /><br />You can read the item under discussion here:<br /><br />Salettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01928309749171198663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-4091555055649448012010-02-15T14:51:16.074-07:002010-02-15T14:51:16.074-07:00special-interest group
or spe•cial in•ter•ests
n...special-interest group<br /><br />or spe•cial in•ter•ests<br /><br />noun <br /><br />Definition:<br /> <br />group trying to influence government policy: a group seeking to influence government policy in favor of an interest or issue<br /><br />http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_1861711410/special-interest_group.html<br /><br />Art is not a special interest; he’s an interested citizen. This blog Salettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01928309749171198663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-14805399146209712342010-02-15T13:22:22.754-07:002010-02-15T13:22:22.754-07:00Desert Voice....I don't belkieve stating an op...Desert Voice....I don't belkieve stating an opinion that differs with Mike's on his approach to business falls into the "attack" category. I simply disagree and so state.<br /><br />Secondly, I doubt that any candidate will be elected based on their approach to matrimony and I really doubt that any human being refuses to locate in Oro Valley based on the marital preferences of OV Objective Thinkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01026296138234301505noreply@blogger.com