tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post3982843659966518771..comments2023-10-04T01:00:46.984-07:00Comments on LOVE: Let Oro Valley Excel: 52 Vote Lead for Zinkin. Waters and Hornat WinRichard Furash, MBAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11114566215839912640noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-43090665734683013462010-05-23T13:21:48.674-07:002010-05-23T13:21:48.674-07:00I find it disturbing that those who might choose t...I find it disturbing that those who might choose to vote one way deem an opposing point of view as coming from a person of a lesser mind then theirs. I do not think that just because one THINKS that his or her education 'rules' that therefor one who might have a different type of education/growth should be relegated by anyone to being a lower class of citizen and therefor being deemed as Zev Cywanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11038217569161037478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-2861301125437638972010-05-23T09:30:42.924-07:002010-05-23T09:30:42.924-07:00OV Dad,
Please replace "sophisty" with ...OV Dad,<br /><br />Please replace "sophisty" with "sophomoric"...my error.Desert Voicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09202412114505804744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-10932453844214267572010-05-22T21:24:02.363-07:002010-05-22T21:24:02.363-07:00OV Dad,
"Sophistry"...yes, your post re...OV Dad,<br /><br />"Sophistry"...yes, your post reminds me of college students learning to have philosophical arguments...but, because of their limited experience, come across as sophistry.<br /><br />Your pen name identifies you as male while V Cowgirl identifies herself as female.<br /><br />While you say you are "as liberal as they come", you project a very conservative Desert Voicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09202412114505804744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-85819103087975556512010-05-22T19:35:40.431-07:002010-05-22T19:35:40.431-07:00A 'caste' value does not apply to a democr...A 'caste' value does not apply to a democratic system of voting. Remember the Soviet Union? Only the members of the 'select' communist party were considered to be worthy of voting; the rest of their world was comprised of 'peons'. Is that the kind of system some of you want? Hmmmmm!?<br /><br />There are different types of 'smarts' - book smarts, street smarts, Zev Cywanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11038217569161037478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-283680635829679622010-05-22T19:19:11.647-07:002010-05-22T19:19:11.647-07:00OV Dad,
You're liberal? You extremely dislik...OV Dad,<br /><br />You're liberal? You extremely dislike Sarah Palin? I'm beginning to like you!<br /><br />Your comment, "No matter how clueless you are, you have a right to vote and your vote counts as much as anyone's" leads me to this response...<br /><br />(1) When a "clueless" person casts a vote, you are correct that their vote COUNTS just as much. I'Victorian Cowgirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07705757131004376446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-7267254547171710182010-05-22T13:52:10.547-07:002010-05-22T13:52:10.547-07:00VC-
I have heard people say they'd vote for ...VC- <br /><br />I have heard people say they'd vote for Sarah Palin because "she is a family woman just like me". I am as liberal as they come and extremely dislike Sarah Palin, yet their vote is worth as much as mine. No matter how clueless you are, you have a right to vote and your vote counts as much as anyone's. What you are saying is that some people's votes count more OVDadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04309375525017706215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-5230434398638535602010-05-22T07:33:31.949-07:002010-05-22T07:33:31.949-07:00VC,
Loved your observations.
Curious things happ...VC,<br /><br />Loved your observations.<br /><br />Curious things happened this week and I wonder if SH supporters can explain. As late as Saturday, May 15 SH literature arrived in RV asking for donations. That seems a tad late to me but admittedly I don't know the campaign rules.<br /><br />Yesterday the FOP called a neighbor asking for donations. They are the union that backed SH.<br />Any Desert Voicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09202412114505804744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-21942234384838036472010-05-21T16:40:04.119-07:002010-05-21T16:40:04.119-07:00OV Dad,
Yes, LITERALLY SPEAKING, a vote is a vote...OV Dad,<br /><br />Yes, LITERALLY SPEAKING, a vote is a vote (meaning every vote has equal weight), but when so many people cast votes for ridiculous reasons (eg. two years ago a member of my own family said she wouldn't vote for a particular candidate because she didn't like his wife!) then, FIGURATIVELY SPEAKING, all votes are NOT EQUAL.<br /><br />I've also been around long enough Victorian Cowgirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07705757131004376446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-68429523223344464942010-05-20T21:16:39.662-07:002010-05-20T21:16:39.662-07:00Jay, Thanks. That is where I have been checking h...Jay, Thanks. That is where I have been checking hourly. You are right 100% correct. Only 12 votes separates the two. There are still 300 plus ballots that need to be counted. It is gonna be tight.Rogerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16650356120567145554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-49489008576021430642010-05-20T19:40:40.147-07:002010-05-20T19:40:40.147-07:00You can get accurate vote tallies, by going to: h...You can get accurate vote tallies, by going to: http://www.pima.gov/elections/results.htm<br /><br />As of this evening, the difference between the two mayoral candidates is 12 votes...Zinkin with 7268 and Hiremath with 7256. This is not over.Jay Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13153995495550509260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-44091782084518506572010-05-20T18:50:07.088-07:002010-05-20T18:50:07.088-07:00Desert Voice, thanks for the education on simple a...Desert Voice, thanks for the education on simple arithmetic however, like I said it is unrealistic to say that either candidate would get ALL of Loomis's votes. Additionally, the stats you are using for Zinkin is not correct. You cannot use stats from one election and say he had that much of an increase using different numbers. But if you want to view it that way I guess SH actually had a Rogerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16650356120567145554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-90046328463696007322010-05-20T13:43:44.410-07:002010-05-20T13:43:44.410-07:00Roger,
Explorer 3/24/10 lists the Mayoral candida...Roger,<br /><br />Explorer 3/24/10 lists the Mayoral candidates as follows:<br /><br />Zinkin 38%<br />Hiremath 33%<br />Loomis 28%<br /><br />Add 33% and 28% you get 61%<br /><br />In the early results on 5/18, Zinkin had 50.01%. Take 38% from that and you get 12%.<br /><br />Does that help you?<br /><br />Fear and ZM,<br /><br />I concur with both of you.<br /><br />Let's hope Desert Voicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09202412114505804744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-34416461448361007212010-05-20T11:36:36.650-07:002010-05-20T11:36:36.650-07:00The procedures for the early ballot are goofy at b...The procedures for the early ballot are goofy at best, have been abused, and need to be revised. What is the point of an early ballot if so many are going to the polling place anyway? <br /><br />The early voting procedure must be changed prior to the next election. Each early ballot must be postmarked two days prior to the election day in order to be valid.Fear the Turtlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04563980911042909791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-22788733442549174562010-05-20T10:22:27.714-07:002010-05-20T10:22:27.714-07:00If an individual requests an early ballot they mus...If an individual requests an early ballot they must have it returned to Pima County Elections officials by election day. Early voters are instructed to drop off any early ballots to the polling place on election day, if they haven't returned them earlier, so that they can be counted. Once an individual has received an early ballot, the list of registered voters would indicate they had Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04502776685400431656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-51217127130885003862010-05-20T09:16:48.679-07:002010-05-20T09:16:48.679-07:00Yes, Fear, I hope there is no chicanery.
This el...Yes, Fear, I hope there is no chicanery. <br /><br />This election is going to go down to the wire. I would hate to see it mired with uncertainty as to these subsequent votes.Richard Furash, MBAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11114566215839912640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-91229383938445145972010-05-20T08:38:34.808-07:002010-05-20T08:38:34.808-07:00Just curious as to why someone drops off an early...Just curious as to why someone drops off an early mail in ballot at a polling place on Tuesday instead of simply voting at the polling place. How verifiable are these early ballots?<br /><br />The methodology utilized in the voting procedures need to be revised so any doubts as to the final results can be erased. No mail in ballots should be allowed to be delived to the polling places on the Fear the Turtlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04563980911042909791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-58227019164738445172010-05-19T21:23:33.652-07:002010-05-19T21:23:33.652-07:00I just learned earlier this evening and from two s...I just learned earlier this evening and from two separate sources that there are over 1000 votes that are yet to be counted. As I understand it this information came from the Pima County 'whatever' office. It has also been anticipated that the vote will not be certified until Friday or possibly Monday - a nail biter for all.<br /><br />Nombe, next time you eat a fine steak at 'RB'Zev Cywanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11038217569161037478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-45255880035646216482010-05-19T21:13:03.182-07:002010-05-19T21:13:03.182-07:00What a Mayoral race. Desert voice where are you g...What a Mayoral race. Desert voice where are you getting your numbers? One has to be realistic that SH is not going to get ALL of Loomis's voters. Zinkin's gain of 12%? Where is that from? <br /><br />What I saw was that Zinkin received 53% of the mail in/early ballots. Which I have a very strong suspicion is the older/retired generation of OV. SH got around 56% of the ballots from Rogerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16650356120567145554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-78817940633737444512010-05-19T19:05:57.400-07:002010-05-19T19:05:57.400-07:00VC -
whether you believe it or not, a vote is a v...VC - <br />whether you believe it or not, a vote is a vote. What you are suggesting is that votes for Zinkin are worth more than votes for SH by which you are denouncing at least parts of the citizens that voted for SH in arguing that they are not educated citizens, but rather subordinate followers of what advertisements and endorsements tell them. Your narrow world view is, shall we say, <br /><OVDadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04309375525017706215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-74581232353102839352010-05-19T17:38:58.734-07:002010-05-19T17:38:58.734-07:00If you look at ALL factors, the race isn't as ...If you look at ALL factors, the race isn't as close as it seems.<br /><br />If you consider that Hiremath had about twice the campaign money, endorsements from businesses and unions, firefighters and police, and should have gotten all the Loomis voters (especially after Loomis endorsed him), ran numerous newspaper ads and sent numerous mailers...<br /><br />In contrast to Zinkin who didn'Victorian Cowgirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07705757131004376446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-52214859944358689002010-05-19T15:44:21.161-07:002010-05-19T15:44:21.161-07:00Great post Zeeman.
We CAN come together as there...Great post Zeeman. <br /><br />We CAN come together as there are many areas where we share common interests. <br /><br />We should share ideas and thoughts and an occasional 'Nombe Zinger' is good for the soul.<br /><br />LOVE!!!<br /><br />DonOV Objective Thinkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01026296138234301505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-62772963291991921182010-05-19T15:34:29.678-07:002010-05-19T15:34:29.678-07:00Zev. No Keg for me. I like FINE dining establish...Zev. No Keg for me. I like FINE dining establishments like Risky Business!<br /><br />D. Voice. Good point, without the LOVE Blog it would have been very unbalanced.<br /><br />I add my congrats. to all. Whatever the outcome, it has to be better than the Loomis downward spiral.<br /><br />NW. TrollNombe Watanabehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11659475481039950174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-46314851125844575252010-05-19T15:26:49.330-07:002010-05-19T15:26:49.330-07:00Well, this is interesting, since many Republicans ...Well, this is interesting, since many Republicans did not believe that SH is truly a Republican. He didn't have the qualities (conservative socially as well as fiscally). A friend at the polls said many of the previous GOVAC volunteers said the had no intention of voting for SH, because of the negative treatment they had receied from him. Looks like he might have just registered as a travelling dancerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12190229063253311218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-9654280085611463432010-05-19T11:52:00.920-07:002010-05-19T11:52:00.920-07:00Bloggers,
This morning listening to DeSimone and ...Bloggers,<br /><br />This morning listening to DeSimone and Higgins volunteer that soccer moms getting out the vote for Prop 100 and SH's free dental exams might have added to his votes,while the national news energetically listed Republican victories in traditionally Dem races through the nation. We are in a political tidal wave and impacted by state and national issues.<br /><br />In spiteDesert Voicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09202412114505804744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-361824526868946733.post-81901935069325473282010-05-19T11:16:11.667-07:002010-05-19T11:16:11.667-07:00The Keg is coming, The Keg is coming! It's sup...The Keg is coming, The Keg is coming! It's supposed to be superb - no need for Ruth's Chris(?).Zev Cywanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11038217569161037478noreply@blogger.com